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What's Up Mash-up

1.  I knew that the SPN community on LJ has been in decline for a while, but I just about choked when I saw the most recent spnnewsletter.  A total of 8 items posted in the last day, 3 of which are fic?  Really?  I can't help but wonder if posts from some comms accidentally got left out, but somehow I'm inclined to think that it may be due to an overall lack of fannish inspiration.  Is this what happens when a show gets a little long in the tooth?  :(

2.  Who else is watching Kripke's "Revolution" on NBC?  Anyone?  Bueller?  Is it bad that I keep inserting Sam and Dean and thinking, "This would be so much better if there were Winchesters," or imagining that it's really SPN's 2014 post-apocalypse universe and expecting Dean and his thigh holster and stoner!Cas and his sandals to pop up from behind a bush, or saying out loud that "Revolution" needs a toilet-paper hoarding character like Chuck.  Bargh.  Apparently Show has ruined me for all other shows.

3.  I finally watched "The Hunger Games".  I know, I'm totally behind in pretty much everything (Don't even ask about my clothes.  I now understand those mom makeovers whereas before I always wondered how the heck someone could let themselves wear such clothes and look so ... mom-ish.  If I ever want to be stylish again, I'm going to have to go back to working outside the home so I have an excuse to literally buy an entire new wardrobe.  Yes, it's that bad.).  Now I'm going to have to actually read the books.  Wish me luck.  I haven't had the attention and time to read a published book since T was born.  Does anyone know anything about the "Hunger Games" fandom?  Active?  General demographic?  Super wanky and/or irrationally shippy?  LJ communities, yay or nay?

4.  How scary is "The Walking Dead"?  Like nightmare worthy or just-jump-around-in-your-seat-then-laugh-at-yourself scary or I'm-never-going-into-my-garage-at-night-EVER-AGAIN-EVER scary?  I watched a webisode series quite a while ago and cried the whole time because I was freaked out (OK, not cry cried, but apparently the flight and fright part of my lizard brain is hot wired to my tear ducts, I know, WEIRD).  Now I want to watch it because ZOMBIES *makes a zombie face*, but I'm afraid I'm just going to be a freaked-out teary mess who goes through a box of Kleenex every episode and then never goes into the garage at night EVER AGAIN EVER.

5.  Boston, you're in my thoughts tonight. 

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missyjack
Apr. 16th, 2013 05:56 am (UTC)
I suspect todays post may be light on as people are caught up in the events in Boston rather than posting fic.

Actually if you look back through even the last week of the spnnewsletter you can see fandom is as creative as ever - or maybe moreso as thats just LJ activity, not taking into account Tumblr, and fic posted directly to A03.
bowtrunckle
Apr. 18th, 2013 01:56 am (UTC)
Boston, good point. What a terrible, horrific tragedy.

you can see fandom is as creative as ever

This makes me feel much better. Whew.
percysowner
Apr. 16th, 2013 10:14 am (UTC)
I'm watching Revolution. It's not Supernatural quality, but I'm enjoying it and I'm trying to remember that although I really liked Supernatural in season one, season 2 was where it really broke out and became something special. Being on a larger network meant that the leads would be young and pretty. They do seem to be having Charlie grow and that will help a lot. It's not great, but it still has potential

ETA: If you go here http://downrightnow.com/ you can see that live journal has been experiencing some level of service trouble for quite a while now. it hasn't been totally knocked out, but it hasn't been at top condition either. Just click on livejournal and then click on Netflix and you can see the difference in uptime. LIvejournal being down means less postings on livejournal, so that accounts for some of it.

Edited at 2013-04-16 10:20 am (UTC)
bowtrunckle
Apr. 18th, 2013 02:14 am (UTC)
season 2 was where it really broke out

I think this is part of my problem finding new TV shows--I don't give them enough time to evolve before I pull the plug. Unless I just happen to catch an episode that connects with me (that's only happened a handful of times), I tend to wander off in search of something better, more interesting.

Being on a larger network meant that the leads would be young and pretty.

I guess the same could be said for SPN (the young and pretty part). ;) I generally don't have a problem with this as long as the prettiness doesn't pull me out of the story repeatedly. I'm just glad that they don't have Charlie wearing make up because that would drive me crazy. But I can't help but think that her hair should be at least as dirty/greasy as Miles' at least once per episode.

They do seem to be having Charlie grow and that will help a lot. It's not great, but it still has potential

Yes. TBH Charlie is OK, but she's not my anchor character. I was really interested in her relationship with Danny as well as the relationship between her, Danny, and Rachel. But really I was interested in Danny as a character because we saw so little of him in the first half of the season. Now I'm not sure who I'm rooting for; Rachel is interesting in a ruthless, unpredictable way. I like Tom and his wife and the complexities of their choices. I'm waiting for someone to pull me in.

Thanks for the downtime link. I'd not seen that site before. Interesting. The limited service that I've experienced periodically from LJ is frustrating and played a role in my decision to downgrade from a paid account.
galathea_snb
Apr. 16th, 2013 10:59 am (UTC)
1. I think this is simply because the community posted two newsletters in short succession. If you look at the newletter before the last one, it's HUGE!

2. I've quit Revolution after the first 5-7 episodes. I just couldn't connect to the characters. Plus, I think the dialogue is corny and the world building is simply not believable.

4. I think 'The Walking Dead' isn't scary so much as it is gory and bleak, excessively so. I think it's a great show, though, it has very high production values and is probably the most realistic post-apocalyptic scenario I have ever seen, but really, if you're looking for some light entertainment TWD is not the right show.
bowtrunckle
Apr. 18th, 2013 02:27 am (UTC)
1. I love that you looked at that. :) I can't help but love that my flist is so smart and logical.

2. I'm still waiting to find an anchor character. I was interested in Danny, but that's not an option any more. :( Ha, some of the dialogue, I swear, could've walked off of a SPN script (in particular the family-related/responsibility dialogue). The one thing I'm appreciating is that Kripke is moving the story along at a good clip, especially after the hiatus. He could've dragged out the "Find Danny" story for the entire season, but thankfully that didn't happen. I guess I'm invested enough to want to see S1 through to the end in hopes that the story and characters will open up.

4. Hmm, gory, I'm not so good with that, esp. if it's at all realistic. I have "New Girl" and "Glee" for my fluffy-TV fixes, but I guess I'm looking for another drama that I can sink my teeth into. Although I'm not specifically looking for a SciFi show, what I really want is something akin to "Battlestar Galactica" in terms of scope, world building, and character development/complexity. But what I'm not looking for is a show that's going to give me nightmares and stress me out while I'm watching it.
galathea_snb
Apr. 18th, 2013 07:53 am (UTC)
Oh my, you set the bar awfully high with Battlestar Galactica! LOL Do you watch Game of Thrones? It's highly recommendable - fantastic world-building, great characters, cineatic production values. Not to be missed, really!

If you can settle for something a little less grand, I would recommend Grimm to you. It's really an enjoyable little show that very much reminds me of the early SPN days. Some of the S1 monster-of-the-week cases are hilariously bad, but it is centred around a strong partnership (Nick&Monroe), it gives you an instant hook character (Monroe) and the mytharc starts to come together nicely from the end of S1 onwards.
bowtrunckle
Apr. 20th, 2013 03:53 am (UTC)
BSG is hard to compete with, and I realize that a show of that caliber is difficult to come by, but I'm all about high bars. ;) GoT is all over my flist, but I haven't checked it out mostly bec. I'd have to buy the DVDs. Hmm, maybe I'll have to rethink that.

Grimm, OK. Is that a show I can start watching mid-season 2 or does it have a strong, interesting mytharc that I'd be spoiling myself for if I did?

Thanks for the suggestions!
galathea_snb
Apr. 20th, 2013 06:31 pm (UTC)
GoT is all over my flist, but I haven't checked it out mostly bec. I'd have to buy the DVDs
Heh, believe me, if the show appeals to you, you'd want to buy the DVDs anyway, and if it doesn't, you can easily sell the DVDs at Ebay again. Just, don't try to watch the show if you're tired. The cast is HUGE, the narrative is complex and dense, even if you're paying full attention you're bound to miss stuff on the first viewing. But well, that's half the fun! :D

Is that a show I can start watching mid-season 2
Uhm, no, you should watch it from the start. Not only because of the mytharc elements - some things just don't make sense if you tune in around mid-S2 - but mainly because of the character arcs. The main characters make a pretty distinct emotional journey throughout S1, especially Nick and Monroe. Think if you'd tune into SPN around mid-S2. Not only wouldn't you know what the yellow eyed demon stuff is all about, but you also didn't witness Sam and Dean's journey from estranged brothers to tight-knit family and partners. The first is easy to catch up on, the latter is necessary for your emotional investment. :)
bowtrunckle
May. 19th, 2013 01:50 am (UTC)
Just an update if you're at all interested (probably not, heh). Both GoT and Grimm are on my watch lists for the summer! \o/\o/\o/ I've already got my grubby hands on Grimm; now I just have to find some time....

Thanks for the suggestions. :)
galathea_snb
May. 19th, 2013 07:54 am (UTC)
Oh, I am totally interested! *g* I would love to hear your opinion once you started watching. It's always such a tricky thing to recommend shows to someone; they invest time (and sometimes money) on your word, so I feel bad if they end up hating the show. LOL

Oh, and if you're reluctant to spend money on the GOT DVDs, I can always send you a copy of my downloaded files on DVD. That way you can decide if you like the show enough to buy them yourself. :)

Edited at 2013-05-19 07:58 am (UTC)
bowtrunckle
May. 26th, 2013 04:16 am (UTC)
Some of my favorite TV shows were ones that were recommended by flisters. They have good taste! :)

Oo, that's so nice of you to offer. I'd love to take you up on that (as my usual go-to person wasn't able to deliver on the GOT DVDs) if it's not too much trouble for you. Let me know how you still feel about it and I can give you my contact info. There's no huge rush, so at your convenience.
ficwriter1966
Apr. 16th, 2013 11:37 am (UTC)
"Ditto" on what the others have said here - depending on when the mod involved does her info-gathering, the newsletter can be gigantic, or a little light. You're right, though, that this edition was particularly teeny-tiny. Not due to nobody writing! I've been churning out fic like crazy the last couple of months, and there's always a bunch floating around on my F-page.

I watched the pilot of "Revolution" and got a headache from the eye-rolling, so I gave up.

TWD, however? LOVE. IT. It doesn't scare me - I get more belly laughs from that show that I do from any of the "comedies" on the air. When it hits the mark, it's the best thing on TV. (Which isn't to say it hits the mark all the time.)
bowtrunckle
Apr. 18th, 2013 02:38 am (UTC)
I've been churning out fic like crazy the last couple of months

Yes, you have (thankfully)! I'm loving your verse with Henry. I love the idea of his character and the MoL world. I'm glad to hear that other writers are still being prolific.

I watched the pilot of "Revolution" and got a headache from the eye-rolling, so I gave up.

Well, I was laughing in a haha-oh-Kripke way when the muscle cars and classic rock paraded across the screen and all the look-out-for-your-brother dialogue happened.

I get more belly laughs from that show that I do from any of the "comedies" on the air.

Is there a lot of humor in it or are you facepalm!laughing at the show? Because I haha humor I can do, but second-hand embarrassment/facepalm!laughing not so much.
ficwriter1966
Apr. 18th, 2013 11:37 pm (UTC)
Re: the laughing at TWD - it's from all the over-the-top zombie deaths. You just know the crew is having WAY too much fun with that stuff, and it makes me guffaw out loud. But generally speaking, no, there's no humor in the show. It's sometimes so annoying I want to throw things at the screen, but when it hits the mark, it *really* hits the mark.
bowtrunckle
Apr. 20th, 2013 03:45 am (UTC)
it's from all the over-the-top zombie deaths

Oh the joys of the horror genre. ;) Zombie deaths, I think I can handle. It's overly graphic human deaths that I have trouble with.

there's no humor in the show

Well, that's a bummer. I think a little levity goes a long way to balance out intense TV drama, darkness, death, and violence. Shows that take themselves too seriously can be ... too serious.
sockkpuppett
Apr. 16th, 2013 02:11 pm (UTC)
HA! My daughter brought The Hunger Games over last Saturday, and I watched it for the first time as well. I understand the Jennifer Lawrence thing now, I think. I feel the same way about wardrobe. I'm at home now, and the most dressed-up I get is my "formal" black jeans. I don't think I even own a pair of panty hose (thank God).

I'm concerned about SPN as well, but less about the fandom than the direction the show is going. Fandom will find a way, but sadly, sometimes, the show itself (not necessarily *this* show, but any show) may not. If Jeremy Carver doesn't pull a rabbit out of his hat by season's end, I'm going to be walk-away disappointed. Which is saying a lot, considering my seven-year obsession with the Winchesters. As it is, my eyes are straying!

I watched the first season of The Walking Dead and tuned out; however, my daughter is a rabid fan and has insisted that I give it another chance. Maybe? It was gruesome, but not so much that I couldn't stand it, and I have a pretty low tolerance for that sort of thing. As it is, I thought the make up (at least S1) was incredible.

I have added and pulled Revolution from my viewing schedule three times so far. This has not boded well?

I would be remiss if I were not to mention the #1 contender for my viewing/fannish heart at the moment: Person of Interest. It is everything I thought it wasn't. Melancholy dystopic view of post-9/11 surveillance, bitter and world-weary heroes, tight plotting, marvelous continuity, well-written characters, surprise!well-faceted and strong female characters. Just... let me put in a BIG WORD to Person of Interest. The fact that it is on CBS really threw me.
datenshiblue
Apr. 16th, 2013 10:34 pm (UTC)
Re: Person of Interest, WORD.
bowtrunckle
Apr. 18th, 2013 03:17 am (UTC)
I watched it for the first time as well. I understand the Jennifer Lawrence thing now

What really got me was the trailer for the next movie. The whole manipulated, reluctant hero against a backdrop of a totalitarian regime peaked my interest. Jennifer Lawrence cracks me up, she's got this diarrhea of the mouth problem that somehow comes off as enduring, hilarious, and so un-Hollywood at the same time.

I don't think I even own a pair of panty hose (thank God).

Oh good grief. Panty hose. I don't think I've owned a pair of those for close to a decade, esp. not the full-length ones you could pull over your head and suffocate yourself with. I don't know a single woman who likes wearing those human sausage casings. When I was working outside the home I rocked the knee-high trouser socks.

If Jeremy Carver doesn't pull a rabbit out of his hat by season's end, I'm going to be walk-away disappointed.

I'm seriously wondering how this season is going to pull together in such few episodes. I've not been thinking about S8 SPN much bec. I don't want to build up my expectations in case this season falls flat. I've adopted a "we'll see" attitude as a defense mechanism, I think.

As it is, my eyes are straying!

As are mine. This is really what's at the heart of why I'm searching for new shows to watch. Not only am I not as engaged in S8 SPN, but I'm realizing that SPN is going to end sooner than later and I'm going to need something fill the void (I'm not sure that's possible, though). The rate at which I'm watching an episode of a show here and there and then saying, "BLAH! You are not SPN,", I feel like I'm speed dating TV shows.

I have added and pulled Revolution from my viewing schedule three times so far.

I admit that I wouldn't have watched it to begin with if it hadn't been created by Kripke, so I gave it more of a chance than I do with other TV shows I've tested out.

Just... let me put in a BIG WORD to Person of Interest.

With that glowing review, I'll have to check it out. However, it seems CBS isn't streaming any episodes on their site, nor is it available on Hulu/Hulu+ or Amazon Prime. Does this mean *gasp* I may have to make time to actually sit down in front of the TV to watch a show live? ;)
hugemind
Apr. 16th, 2013 04:27 pm (UTC)
1. I'll echo what people have already said. Also, it's the final crunch time for the Bigbang deadline (May 1st), so the writers may be focusing on that at the moment.

2. Winchesters with thigh holsters would make any Show watchable.

4. Ooo, we've finally started watching S1 and the first three episodes seemed a little uneven to me. Or maybe I'm just used to a faster pace, but the shots feel pretty long and the non-walker scenes are very slower compared to scenes with walkers. But this is after three eps; maybe I'll get into it more as it progresses.
bowtrunckle
Apr. 18th, 2013 12:30 pm (UTC)
1. Good point. I'm not plugged into the details of the fic writer's community, but BB deadlines are a substantial thing.

2. I'd get on board with that any day. *drools*

3. Let me know how you're feeling about more of the season as it progresses. The zombie (walkers) scare the crap out of me. In the webisode I watched, it was the contrast of them shuffling around against a backdrop of the everyday mundane that creeped me out (mid-day abandoned b-day parties in suburbia). It's the vibe that I imagine SPN wanted 5x02 (Good God, Y'all) to have. Also, the fact the webisode didn't have a dramatic soundtrack, just the walkers moving around and making slow, unrelenting scuffing noises in the background was unnerving. *freaks out*
citrusjava
Apr. 16th, 2013 04:32 pm (UTC)
SPN - *cries*
No, don't leave :(

Revolution - LOL, I do the same thing. It's... sort of kind of good? I can't get into it.

I hear you, about clothes. I look like a total stereotype. *But* I've decided to embrace it as my little fuck you to society. It's comfortable, it's what I can afford, and I love and will take my body and my economic status and be queer and awesome.
bowtrunckle
Apr. 18th, 2013 12:41 pm (UTC)
*cries too* I've seen a lot of people on my flist mentioning that this may be their last season. :( Despite the many reservations I have, it would take a major overhaul to shake me from this show (something so disrespectful to the audience would have to happen). I feel that I'll be watching to the end, but if it keeps downward spiraling, I might just watch on radio silence as to not upset anyone else with my frustration.

It's... sort of kind of good? I can't get into it.

Maybe it's just me projecting that I want to to be good bec. I'm so loyal to its half-brother show, SPN. It definitely has potential. I'm going to give it to the end of the season to see what else it has in its pockets.

will take my body and my economic status and be queer and awesome.

Good for you! Cheers to being comfortable with yourself! That's one thing I'm happy to have learned over the years. Years living with yourself will do that to you. ;)
citrusjava
Apr. 18th, 2013 02:17 pm (UTC)
That's one thing I'm happy to have learned over the years

That's *awesome* :-)
Still working on that, myself.

Years living with yourself will do that to you

:-) :-)
runedgirl
Apr. 17th, 2013 01:38 am (UTC)
I hate when anyone leaves SPN! Nooooooo!

Have been watching Revolution, but am constantly being reminded of SPN and finding it lacking Winchesters as well. I still think those boys would make any Show better...
bowtrunckle
Apr. 18th, 2013 12:46 pm (UTC)
I don't like it when people leave either. :( I want everybody to be dancing around LJ like the old days. Gah, the synergy back then.

I still think those boys would make any Show better...

They would. Together. In my happy, wishful-thinking imaginary world, JA and JP would become the actors equivalent of writing partners: they work together more often than not and come as a package. Also, in my imaginary world, there's a R-rated SPN movie. Hearing the f-word come out of Dean Winchester's gigantic 40-foot mouth would send me into a public scream-clapping tizzy.

Edited at 2013-04-18 12:48 pm (UTC)
yourlibrarian
Apr. 17th, 2013 10:09 pm (UTC)
I only saw the Hunger Games a few weeks ago, so you're not the only one!

I think that the decline (and there is one, even if this particular update was misleading) is largely on LJ rather than in the fandom. There's still a lot of fanfic getting posted to the AO3, and not only is participation in Big Bang still high but there are quite a few challenges around these days that are getting contributions. The thing is the spnnewsletter editors said some time ago in regards to content elsewhere that they only compile stuff on LJ. So I think it says more about fandom participation on this site.
bowtrunckle
Apr. 19th, 2013 02:11 am (UTC)
so you're not the only one!

A had a field trip with some of his students this past weekend and apparently they were all watching "Hunger Games". Upon finding me watching it when he came home, he asked what as up with "Everyone watching this movie?" I'm surprised that I'm not the only one playing popular-movie catch up.

I think it says more about fandom participation on this site.

That's good for overall fandom health. I'm personally not as interested in other platforms as LJ meshes with my personal interaction style better, so I may end up becoming obsolete along with the SPN LJ community unless something similar suddenly pops up that everyone flocks to.
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